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		<title>By: Babs</title>
		<link>http://www.timdavis.com.au/mobile/location-based-services-lbs-technology-overview/comment-page-1/#comment-5312</link>
		<dc:creator>Babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

I love your write-ups, very awesome. I have a question.
How can one know the Tower Broadcast Channel or Area Broadcast Channel of any Network Provider?
Thanks as you reply.

Babs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I love your write-ups, very awesome. I have a question.<br />
How can one know the Tower Broadcast Channel or Area Broadcast Channel of any Network Provider?<br />
Thanks as you reply.</p>
<p>Babs</p>
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		<title>By: Nitin</title>
		<link>http://www.timdavis.com.au/mobile/location-based-services-lbs-technology-overview/comment-page-1/#comment-4134</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim,
it is really a comprehensive and useful information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim,<br />
it is really a comprehensive and useful information.</p>
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		<title>By: Aditya Soni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aditya Soni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,
Your post was very useful.
I am a final year computer engineering student and as a final year project we are planning to make a location based application using the triangulation method.
Can you please tell us more about this method if possible.
Thanks a Lot..

Aditya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,<br />
Your post was very useful.<br />
I am a final year computer engineering student and as a final year project we are planning to make a location based application using the triangulation method.<br />
Can you please tell us more about this method if possible.<br />
Thanks a Lot..</p>
<p>Aditya</p>
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		<title>By: sajjad</title>
		<link>http://www.timdavis.com.au/mobile/location-based-services-lbs-technology-overview/comment-page-1/#comment-3768</link>
		<dc:creator>sajjad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim 
       Thanks for providing valueable information,i am working in telecom sector and can understand all technical inforamtion ,i just need dto know is it possible to decode all cell information for all mobiles including CDMA ?
let suppose i am using E71 NOKIA so what will be the code for E71 to decode cell and netwrok information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim<br />
       Thanks for providing valueable information,i am working in telecom sector and can understand all technical inforamtion ,i just need dto know is it possible to decode all cell information for all mobiles including CDMA ?<br />
let suppose i am using E71 NOKIA so what will be the code for E71 to decode cell and netwrok information.</p>
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		<title>By: Raviraj Gangania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raviraj Gangania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>highly enligtening post, struggling to find words for expressing thanks for such a nice work. Eureka!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>highly enligtening post, struggling to find words for expressing thanks for such a nice work. Eureka!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.timdavis.com.au/mobile/location-based-services-lbs-technology-overview/comment-page-1/#comment-3577</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Thanks for your reply.  I have a couple of questions I would like to ask you offline.  You have my e-mail.  Please let me know how to contact you.

Thanks,

Sg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply.  I have a couple of questions I would like to ask you offline.  You have my e-mail.  Please let me know how to contact you.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Sg</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the comment. The applications you are talking about typically work in 2 ways:

1) they have a back end service connection with the operator (these tend to be only operator approved apps - so they essentially have the full resources of the operator) and they can simply triangulate the address of the phone with a high degree of accuracy

2) they are preinstalled on the phone and are &quot;always on&quot; in the core OS of the phones system. This essentially means they are an &quot;always on&quot; program that has been either been post or pre installed on the device itself - essentially creating a program that distributes the phones location.

Depending on the platform you are creating your application on - you can create many applications now utilizing Google Mapping technology and using the phones native GPS and/or Googles (and other services) API ping back of the co-ordinates of the phone in lat/long. Many phone OS systems now (including the iPhone with its newly introduced Push Notification system in the 3.0 update) can distribute this information at any interval written into the apps code - although its usually a decision reversed for the user.

I would envisage - the apps you are talking about &#039;GeoFence&#039; apps are using the later. Since the co-ordinates need to be in lat/long - since any associated pure triangulation system would be fairly useless on a non-operator level.

Feel free to ask any more questions and hopefully this has helped :)

Cheers,

T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stuart,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. The applications you are talking about typically work in 2 ways:</p>
<p>1) they have a back end service connection with the operator (these tend to be only operator approved apps &#8211; so they essentially have the full resources of the operator) and they can simply triangulate the address of the phone with a high degree of accuracy</p>
<p>2) they are preinstalled on the phone and are &#8220;always on&#8221; in the core OS of the phones system. This essentially means they are an &#8220;always on&#8221; program that has been either been post or pre installed on the device itself &#8211; essentially creating a program that distributes the phones location.</p>
<p>Depending on the platform you are creating your application on &#8211; you can create many applications now utilizing Google Mapping technology and using the phones native GPS and/or Googles (and other services) API ping back of the co-ordinates of the phone in lat/long. Many phone OS systems now (including the iPhone with its newly introduced Push Notification system in the 3.0 update) can distribute this information at any interval written into the apps code &#8211; although its usually a decision reversed for the user.</p>
<p>I would envisage &#8211; the apps you are talking about &#8216;GeoFence&#8217; apps are using the later. Since the co-ordinates need to be in lat/long &#8211; since any associated pure triangulation system would be fairly useless on a non-operator level.</p>
<p>Feel free to ask any more questions and hopefully this has helped :)</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>T.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Quick question.  Can a back end service &quot;ask&quot; a network provider for the location of a device?  I see apps where you can put a GeoFence around your neighborhood to alert you when a child&#039;s phone moves outside the perimeter.

I assume you can create a 3rd party application that will &quot;periodically monitor&quot; a devices location.  Seems you would have to have a gateway to the mobile providers network and in reality their permission to ask for the location of the device.

Just wondering if this creates a monopoly on many LBS applications that can only be offered by the provider themselves.

Sg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Quick question.  Can a back end service &#8220;ask&#8221; a network provider for the location of a device?  I see apps where you can put a GeoFence around your neighborhood to alert you when a child&#8217;s phone moves outside the perimeter.</p>
<p>I assume you can create a 3rd party application that will &#8220;periodically monitor&#8221; a devices location.  Seems you would have to have a gateway to the mobile providers network and in reality their permission to ask for the location of the device.</p>
<p>Just wondering if this creates a monopoly on many LBS applications that can only be offered by the provider themselves.</p>
<p>Sg</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Great article - never seen such an in-depth explanation about LBS before. Really excited to see where all this is headed. Thanks again for such a great post.

Brett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Great article &#8211; never seen such an in-depth explanation about LBS before. Really excited to see where all this is headed. Thanks again for such a great post.</p>
<p>Brett</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Darryl,

Thanks for reading.

Try #073887* or *#**364# - they are the only Motorola ones I can think of.

Cheers,

T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darryl,</p>
<p>Thanks for reading.</p>
<p>Try #073887* or *#**364# &#8211; they are the only Motorola ones I can think of.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>T.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

A follow up to my last email.  I didn&#039;t include the model number;  it is a motorola W385.

thanks,

darryl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>A follow up to my last email.  I didn&#8217;t include the model number;  it is a motorola W385.</p>
<p>thanks,</p>
<p>darryl</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

I appreciate the information you provided and I need further instructions to access the engineering information screen for a Motorola phone.  I tried finding this on the Internet, but could not get the unlock code information.

Thanks,

Darryl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I appreciate the information you provided and I need further instructions to access the engineering information screen for a Motorola phone.  I tried finding this on the Internet, but could not get the unlock code information.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Darryl</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

This is an awesome post. Thanks so much for all the information. Really helped me understand everything in relation to LBS.

Not sure how regularly you post - but keep up the great work. You have a new reader.

Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>This is an awesome post. Thanks so much for all the information. Really helped me understand everything in relation to LBS.</p>
<p>Not sure how regularly you post &#8211; but keep up the great work. You have a new reader.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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